Monday, April 29, 2013

On the road

Life these days consists of the liberality to move freely as God leads. Some would call us vagrants others with a little more understanding would call us pilgrims and strangers.
 
  Jesus commands us to forsake it all and put our trust in him, but there are few there be that believe he ment that literally. What do you think he meant ?
  
I have found great blessings of hardships and joy by taking what jesus said to be just what he means.

   What if he really means to live day by day with out taking thought for tomorrow ? Is that not what he said ? Why are men so afraid to preach what the master preaches in this area ? Could it be that faith in jesus is a bit more then most are willing to except ?
 
Why are we so afraid as christians to live a life like jesus ? Is it possiable we are holding onto more then we are willing to admit ?

   These are big questions let's not be afraid to ask them. let's not give into the intimidation to keep quiet on such important issues. The Righteous are bold as a lion.

*[[Luk 18:8]] KJV* I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

  May The grace that bringeth salvation fall into a good and honest heart !

Sunday, April 28, 2013

Pilgrims and strangers

Its really been a blessing visiting the ben curren family in kentucky. The pembroke brothers are really trying to walk in the light. They were very hospitable to my family over the weekend, may God bless them for having mercy on the stranger.
Its refreashing to see brothers striving to be humble and sincerely seeking God. Not afraid to admit their shortcomings and pressing in to the kingdom.



Tuesday, April 23, 2013

Downsizing

We hit the road on saterday and took a large portion of our possessions to the fkea market to sale. It was a good day , we unloaded a good amount of stuff  from the trailer. Its nice to lighten your load as well as make a few dollars for the road. Its such a blessing to just have what you need, and not be over run with clutter ! We are ajusting to family life in such a small space, but it's been a good experience and opportunity to teach our children what's really important.

  


Saturday, April 13, 2013

Early christian thoughts on war.

And of these sayings the teaching is this: Bless those who curse you, and pray for your enemies, and fast for those who persecute you. For what reward is there for loving those who love you? Do not the Gentiles do the same? But love those who hate you, and you shall not have an enemy. Abstain from fleshly and worldly lusts. If someone strikes your right cheek, turn to him the other also, and you shall be perfect. "Didache (A.D. 80-140) ch. 1"

We who hated and destroyed one another, and on account of their different manners would not live with men of a different tribe, now, since the coming of Christ, live familiarly with them, and pray for our enemies, and endeavour to persuade those who hate us unjustly to live conformably to the good precepts of Christ, to the end that they may become partakers with us of the same joyful hope of a reward from God the ruler of all. "Justin Martyr (A.D. 160) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.1 pg.167"

We who formerly used to murder one another do not only now refrain from making war upon our enemies, but also, that we may not lie nor deceive our examiners, willingly die confessing Christ. "Justin Martyr (A.D. 160) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.1 pg.176"

*(The following was written by a pagan Roman emperor regarding his experience with professing Christian soldiers in his army who refused to fight but instead offered prayers.) *The Emperor Caesar Marcus Aurelius, to the People of Rome, and to the sacred Senate… I was surrounded by the enemy; And the enemy being at hand... there was close on us a mass of a mixed multitude of 977,000 men, which indeed we saw… Having then examined my own position, and my host, with respect to… the enemy, I quickly betook myself to prayer to the gods of my country. But being disregarded by them, I summoned those who among us go by the name of Christians. And having made inquiry, I discovered a great number and vast host of them, and raged against them, which was by no means becoming; for afterwards I learned their power. Wherefore they began the battle, not by preparing weapons, nor arms, nor bugles; for such preparation is hateful to them, on account of the God they bear about in their conscience. Therefore it is probable that those whom we suppose to be atheists, have God as their ruling power entrenched in their conscience. For having cast themselves on the ground, they prayed not only for me, but also for the whole army as it stood, that they might be delivered from the present thirst and famine. For during five days we had got no water, because there was none; for we were in the heart of Germany, and in the enemy's territory. And simultaneously with their casting themselves on the ground, and praying to God (a God of whom I am ignorant), water poured from heaven, upon us most refreshingly cool, but upon the enemies of Rome a withering hail. And immediately we recognized the presence of God following on the prayer - a God unconquerable and indestructible. Founding upon this, then, let us pardon such as are Christians, lest they pray for and obtain such a weapon against ourselves. And I counsel that no such person be accused on the ground of his being a Christian. But if any one be found laying to the charge of a Christian that he is a Christian, I desire that it be made manifest that he who is accused as a Christian, and acknowledges that he is one, is accused of nothing else than only this, that he is a Christian; but that he who arraigns him be burned alive. And I further desire, that he who is entrusted with the government of the province shall not compel the Christian, who confesses and certifies such a matter, to retract; neither shall he commit him. And I desire that these things be confirmed by a decree of the Senate. And I command this my edict to be published in the Forum of Trajan, in order that it may be read. The prefect Vitrasius Pollio will see that it be transmitted to all the provinces round about, and that no one who wishes to make use of or to possess it be hindered from obtaining a copy from the document I now publish. "Emperor Caesar Marcus Aurelius (A.D.160) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.1 pg.187"

We who were filled with war, and mutual slaughter, and every wickedness, have each through the whole earth changed our warlike weapons - our swords into ploughshares, and our spears into implements of tillage - and we cultivate piety, righteousness, philanthropy, faith, and hope, which we have from the Father Himself through Him who was crucified. "Justin Martyr (A.D. 160) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.1 pg.254"

No new covenant was given, but they used the Mosaic law until the coming of the Lord; but from the Lord's advent, the new covenant which brings back peace, and the law which gives life, has gone forth over the whole earth, as the prophets said: "For out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem; and He shall rebuke many people; and they shall break down their swords into ploughshares, and their spears into pruning-hooks, and they shall no longer learn to fight."… the law of liberty… caused such a change in the state of things, that these [nations] did form the swords and war-lances into ploughshares, and changed them into pruning-hooks for reaping the corn, [that is], into instruments used for peaceful purposes, and that they are now unaccustomed to fighting, but when smitten, offer also the other cheek. "Irenaeus (A.D. 180) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.1 pg.512"

For when they know that we cannot endure even to see a man put to death, though justly; who of them can accuse us of murder or cannibalism? …But we, deeming that to see a man put to death is much the same as killing him, have abjured such spectacles. How, then, when we do not even look on, lest we should contract guilt and pollution, can we put people to death?"Athenagorus (A.D. 137) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.2 pg.147"

For He says, "Take no anxious thought for tomorrow," meaning that the man who has devoted himself to Christ ought to be sufficient to himself, and servant to himself, and moreover lead a life which provides for each day by itself. For it is not in war, but in peace, that we are trained. War needs great preparation, and luxury craves profusion; but peace and love, simple and quiet sisters, require no arms nor excessive preparation. The Word is their sustenance. "Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 195) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.2 pg.235"

In their wars, therefore, the Etruscans use the trumpet, the Arcadians the pipe, the Sicilians the pectides, the Cretans the lyre, the Lacedaemonians the flute, the Thracians the horn, the Egyptians the drum, and the Arabians the cymbal. The one instrument of peace, the Word alone by which we honor God, is what we employ. We no longer employ the ancient psaltery, and trumpet, and timbrel, and flute, which those expert in war and despisers of the fear of God were wont to make use of also in the choruses at their festive assemblies; that by such strains they might raise their dejected minds."Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 195) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.2 pg.248-249"

For we do not train our women like Amazons to manliness in war; since we wish the men even to be peaceable. I hear that the Sarmatian women practice war no less than the men; and the women of the Sacae besides, who shoot backwards, feigning flight as well as the men. I am aware, too, that the women near Iberia practice manly work and toil, not refraining from their tasks even though near their delivery; but even in the very struggle of her pains, the woman, on being delivered, taking up the infant, carries it home. "Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 195) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.2 pg.420"


Dont stop growing !

*[[Job 14:7]] KJV* For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not cease.


Thursday, April 11, 2013

Update.

I will be removing a number of posts to update or fine tune them. Please feel free to offer any suggestions on the direction of this blog.


Wednesday, April 10, 2013

This is a blessing

Early christian thoughts on the beard.

But for one who is a man to comb himself and shave himself with a razor, for the sake of fine effect, to arrange his hair at the looking-glass, to shave his cheeks, pluck hairs out of them, and smooth them, how womanly! And, in truth, unless you saw them naked, you would suppose them to be women. "Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 195) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.2 pg.275"

For God wished women to be smooth, and rejoice in their locks alone growing spontaneously, as a horse in his mane; but has adorned man, like the lions, with a beard, and endowed him, as an attribute of manhood, with shaggy breasts, a sign his of strength and rule."Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 195) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.2 pg.275"

This, then, the mark of the man, the beard, by which he is seen to be a man, is older than Eve, and is the token of the superior nature. In this God deemed it right that he should excel, and dispersed hair over man's whole body."Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 195) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.2 pg.276"

It is therefore impious to desecrate the symbol of manhood, hairiness. But the embellishment of smoothing (for I am warned by the Word), if it is to attract men, is the act of an effeminate person, if to attract women, is the act of an adulterer; and both must be driven as far as possible from our society. "Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 195) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.2 pg.276"

"But the very hairs of your head are all numbered," says the Lord; those on the chin, too, are numbered, and those on the whole body. There must be therefore no plucking out, contrary to God's appointment, which has counted them in according to His will… For it is not lawful to pluck out the beard, man's natural and noble ornament. "Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 195) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.2 pg.276-277"

But let the chin have the hair… For an ample beard suffices for men. And if one, too, shave a part of his beard, it must not be made entirely bare, for this is a disgraceful sight. The shaving of the chin to the skin is reprehensible, approaching to plucking out the hair and smoothing. For instance, thus the Psalmist, delighted with the hair of the beard, says, "As the ointment that descends on the beard, the beard of Aaron." Having celebrated the beauty of the beard by a repetition, he made the face to shine with the ointment of the Lord."Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 195) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.2 pg.286"

The moustache similarly, which is dirtied in eating, is to be cut round, not by the razor, for that were not well-bred, but by a pair of cropping scissors. But the hair on the chin is not to be disturbed, as it gives no trouble, and lends to the face dignity and paternal terror. "Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 195) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.2 pg.286"

If it is true, (as it is,) that in men, for the sake of women (just as in women for the sake of men), there is implanted, by a defect of nature, the will to please; and if this sex of ours acknowledges to itself deceptive trickeries of form peculiarly its own, -- (such as) to cut the beard too sharply; to pluck it out here and there; to shave round about (the mouth). "Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.4 pg. 22"

Then the nature of the beard contributes in an incredible degree to distinguish the maturity of bodies, or to the distinction of sex, or to the beauty of manliness and strength. "Lactantius (A.D. 304-313) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.7 pg.288"

Tuesday, April 2, 2013

PRESS THROUGH TO YESHUA

So long as you have health and friends and money and position, we do not feel any particular need of Yeshua.  Most of us, like Jacob, must be alone at some jabbok, with all the props knocked out, before we reach real power with God and men.
   Yeshua was on his way to the house of Jarius.  A multitude of people  thronged  him on every side.  In the midst of him was a woman who suffered a threefold adversity. She had a incurable disease; she had spent all she had on physicians, and was worse instead of better; and she was ceremonially unclean. In such a miserable condition she had become desperate. The best thing that can happen to any of us is to be reduced to a HOLY DESPERATION. In some such spirit this poor, wretched woman resolved to press through to Yeshua.
  Desperation is not enough: she had FAITH.  She believed if she could get through to Yeshua she would be healed. If we believe enough to press through all obstacles and touch the hem of His garment we shall be blessed as though we had all the faith in the world.
  Right here lies the trouble of the rich young ruler. He was not desperate, he was a fine young fellow who wanted to" do all the right things" and, along with his other attainments, he wanted to inherit eternal life. But he was not desperate and Yeshua knew it. So he demanded that the young ruler cut loose from his possessions and burn all his bridges behind him, so only could  he live with utter, absolute, reckless abandon. This he was not willing to do, which shows that he had never reached the spiritual extremity that cries," why sit we here until we die?" (2 kings 7:3-9) No man can truly follow Yeshua until he is desperately committed to God alone. So long as we lean with part of our weight on some resource other then Yeshua, we can never know Gods fullest blessing.
   Christians do not drink of the Living Water of the Spirit because there is no burning,feverish, consuming thirst after God. There is no driving, desperate sense of need such as drove this poor sick woman to press through to Yeshua. We go to church every Sunday, we crowd Yeshua, we pay him respect, but very few, very few, ever really touch him with a faith that lays hold of his divine virtue. And the reason is, that few have any desperate sense of need. We sit in church, we listen, but we are not overwhelmed with urgency and emergency. The whole matter is one we can take or leave. We are leaning on so many other things we have not reached extremity. We are rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing. So, we do not touch him,and, consequently, his virtue does not go out into our lives and we go away empty, while some poor soul, driven to desperation, simply touches the hem of His garment and is made whole!
  How many things will get in the way when a soul starts to follow Yeshua? the crowd always hinders, for the multitudes today are not minded to touch Yeshua, and they will laugh at the desperate Soul who elbows threw into his presence. Even the church often gets in the way of a soul pressing through to Yeshua. Most Christians are yet carnel, they do not understand anybody who insist on pressing through to Yeshua. So long as one is just an ordinary Christian, nobody pays any attention.
But let him start out to follow on to know Yeshua and there will be lifted eyebrows and shrugged shoulders and caustic remarks.BUT STOP NOWHERE SHORT OF HIS PRESENCE !


Conditions of peace

*[[Luk 14:31-33]] KJV*  Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand? Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.  So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

Monday, April 1, 2013

Early christian thoughts on seperation from the world

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. "2 Corinthians 6:14, 17

Let us not give loose reins to our soul, that it should have power to run with sinners and the wicked, lest we become like them. "Barnabas (A.D. 70-130) ch.4"

Let us be imitators also of them which went about in goatskins and sheepskins, preaching the coming of Christ. "Clement of Rome (A.D. 96) ch.17"

Let us rather give offence to foolish and senseless men who exalt themselves and boast in the arrogance of their words, than to God. "Clement of Rome (A.D. 96) ch. 21"

Wherefore, brethren, let us forsake our sojourn in this world and do the will of Him that called us, and let us not be afraid to depart out of this world. "Second Clement (A.D. 100) ch.5"

And you know, brethren, that the sojourn of this flesh in this world is mean and for a short time, but the promise of Christ is great and marvelous, even the rest of the kingdom that shall be and of life eternal. What then can we do to obtain them, but walk in holiness and righteousness, and consider these worldly things as alien to us, and not desire them? For when we desire to obtain these things we fall away from the righteous path. "Second Clement (A.D. 100) ch.5"

But the Lord said, No servant can serve two masters. If we desire to serve both God and mammon, it is unprofitable for us: For what advantage is it, if a man gain the whole world and forfeit his soul? Now this age and the future are two enemies. The one speaks of adultery and defilement and avarice and deceit, but the other bids farewell to these. We cannot therefore be friends of the two, but must bid farewell to the one and hold companionship with the other. "Second Clement (A.D. 100) ch.6"

And I too, taking part in the festivity, am permitted by letter to bear you company and to rejoice with you, that you set not your love on anything after the common life of men, but only on God. "Ignatius: to the Ephesians (A.D. 35-105) ch.9"

The work is not of persuasiveness, but Christianity is at it’s greatest, whenever it is hated by the world. "Ignatius: to the Romans (A.D. 35-105) ch.3"

Bear with me, brethren. Do not hinder me from living; do not desire my death. Bestow not on the world one who desires to be God's, neither allure him with material things. Suffer me to receive the pure light. When I am come thither, then shall I be a man. "Ignatius: to the Romans (A.D. 35-105) ch.6"

Rather stand you on my side, that is on God's side. Speak not of Jesus Christ and withal desire the world. "Ignatius: to the Romans (A.D. 35-105) ch.7"

Since I see, that you are exceedingly anxious to understand the religion of the Christians, as to what God they trust and how they worship Him, that they all disregard the world and despise death. "Letter to Diognetus (A.D. 125-200) ch. 1"

Those who have never investigated concerning the truth, nor enquired concerning the deity, but have merely believed, and have been mixed up in business affairs and riches and heathen friendships, and many other affairs of this world - as many, I say, as devote themselves to these things, comprehend not the parables of the deity; for they are darkened by these actions, and are corrupted and become barren. "Hermas (A.D. 150) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.1 pg. 26"

These are men who have been believers, but grew rich and became renowned among the Gentiles. They clothed themselves with great pride and became high-minded, and abandoned the truth and did not cleave to the righteous, but lived together after the manner of the Gentiles… Others at the last living with the Gentiles, and being corrupted by the vain opinions of the Gentiles, departed from God, and worked the works of the Gentiles. These therefore were numbered with the Gentiles. "Hermas (A.D. 150) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.1 pg.42"

The Lord said: "Judge not, that you be not judged: for with what judgment you shall judge, you shall be judged." [The meaning is] not certainly that we should not find fault with sinners, nor that we should consent to those who act wickedly; but that we should not pronounce an unfair judgment on the dispensations of God, inasmuch as He has Himself made provision that all things shall turn out for good, in a way consistent with justice. "Irenaeus (A.D. 180) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.1 pg.504"

I do not wish to be a king; I am not anxious to be rich; I decline military command; I detest fornication; I am not impelled by an insatiable love of gain to go to sea; I do not contend for chaplets; I am free from a mad thirst for fame; I despise death… Die to the world, repudiating the madness that is in it. Live to God, and by apprehending Him lay aside your old nature. We were not created to die, but we die by our own fault. Our free-will has destroyed us; we who were free have become slaves; we have been sold through sin. Nothing evil has been created by God; we ourselves have manifested wickedness; but we, who have manifested it, are able again to reject it. "Tatian (A.D.160) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.2 pg.69"

Among us nothing is ever said, or seen, or heard, which has anything in common with the madness of the circus, the immodesty of the theatre, the atrocities of the arena, the useless exercises of the wrestling-ground. Why do you take offence at us because we differ from you in regard to your pleasures? If we will not partake of your enjoyments, the loss is ours, if there be loss in the case, not yours. We reject what pleases you. "Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.3 pg. 46"

We cannot sit down in fellowship with them, as neither can they with us. Things in this matter go by their turns. Now they have gladness and we are troubled. "The world," says Jesus, "shall rejoice; you shall be sorrowful." Let us mourn, then, while the heathen are merry, that in the day of their sorrow we may rejoice; lest, sharing now in their gladness, we share then also in their grief. You are too dainty, Christian, if you wouldst have pleasure in this life as well as in the next; nay, a fool you are, if you think this life's pleasures to be really pleasures."Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.3 pg. 90"

Early christian thoughts on the veil

It has also been commanded that the head should be veiled and the face covered; for it is a wicked thing for beauty to be a snare to men. Nor is it seemly for a woman to wish to make herself conspicuous, by using a purple veil. "Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 195) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.2 pg.266"
And she will never fall, who puts before her eyes modesty, and her shawl; nor will she invite another to fall into sin by uncovering her face. For this is the wish of the Word, since it is becoming for her to pray veiled."Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 195) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.2 pg.290"
Demanding then a law of God, you have that common one prevailing all over the world, engraved on the natural tables to which the apostle too is wont to appeal, as when in respect of the woman's veil he says, "Does not even Nature teach you?" - as when to the Romans, affirming that the heathen do by nature those things which the law requires, he suggests both natural law and a law-revealing nature. "Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.3 pg. 96"
Christ is the Head of the Christian man - (for his head) is as free as even Christ is, under no obligation to wear a covering, not to say a crown. But even the head which is bound to have the veil, I mean woman's, as already taken possession of by this very thing, is not open also to a crown. She has the burden of her own humility to bear. "Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.3 pg. 102"
But that point which is promiscuously observed throughout the churches, whether virgins ought to be veiled or no, must be treated of. For they who allow to virgins immunity from head-covering, appear to rest on this; that the apostle has not defined "virgins" by name, but "women," as "to be veiled;" "Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.3 pg. 687"
"Every woman," said he, "praying and prophesying with head uncovered, dishonors her own head." What is "every woman”, but woman of every age, of every rank, of every condition? "Every man." As, then, in the masculine sex, under the name of "man" even the "youth" is forbidden to be veiled; so, too, in the feminine, under the name of "woman," even the "virgin" is bidden to be veiled… For indeed it is "on account of the angels" that he said women must be veiled, because on account of "the daughters of men" angels revolted from God. Who then, would contend that "women" alone - that is, such as were already wedded and had lost their virginity - were the objects of angelic concupiscence, unless "virgins" are incapable of excelling in beauty and finding lovers? "Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.3 pg. 688" To us the Lord has, even by revelations, measured the space for the veil to extend over. For a certain sister of ours was thus addressed by an angel, beating her neck, as if in applause: "Elegant neck, and deservedly bare! it is well for you to unveil yourself from the head right down to the loins, lest withal this freedom of your neck profit you not!" And, of course, what you have said to one you have said to all. But how severe a chastisement will they likewise deserve, who, amid (the recital of) the Psalms, and at any mention of (the name of) God, continue uncovered; (who) even when about to spend time in prayer itself, with the utmost readiness place a fringe, or a tuft, or any thread whatever, on the crown of their heads, and suppose themselves to be covered?"Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.4 pg.37"

Why do you denude before God what you cover before men? Will you be more modest in public than in the church? Be veiled, virgin, if virgin you are; for you ought to blush. If you are a virgin, shrink from (the gaze of) many eyes. Let no one wonder at your face; let no one perceive your falsehood. "Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.3 pg. 689"
Nay, rather banish quite away from your "free" head all this slavery of ornamentation. In vain do you labor to seem adorned: in vain do you call in the aid of all the most skilful manufacturers of false hair. God bids you "be veiled." I believe (He does so) for fear the heads of some should be seen! "Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.4 pg.22"
It behooves our virgins to be veiled from the time that they have passed the turning-point of their age: that this observance is exacted by truth, on which no one can impose prescription - no space of times, no influence of persons, no privilege of regions. "Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.4 pg.27"
Throughout Greece, and certain of its barbaric provinces, the majority of Churches keep their virgins covered. There are places, too, beneath this (African) sky, where this practice obtains; lest any ascribe the custom to Greek or barbarian Gentilehood. But I have proposed (as models) those Churches which were founded by apostles or apostolic men. "Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.4 pg.28"
"If any," he says, "is contentious, we have not such a custom, nor (has) the Church of God." So, too, did the Corinthians themselves understand him. In fact, at this day the Corinthians do veil their virgins. What the apostles taught, their disciples approve. "Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.4 pg.32-33"
But even if it is "on account of the angels" that she is to be veiled, doubtless the age from which the law of the veil will come into operation will be that from which "the daughters of men" were able to invite concupiscence of their persons, and to experience marriage. "Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.4 pg.24"
And as they veil their head in presence of heathens, let them at all events in the church conceal their virginity, which they do veil outside the church. They fear strangers: let them stand in awe of the brethren too."Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.4 pg.35"
For some, with their turbans and woolen bands, do not veil their head, but bind it up; protected, indeed, in front, but, where the head properly lies, bare. Others are to a certain extent covered over the region of the brain with linen coifs of small dimensions - I suppose for fear of pressing the head - and not reaching quite to the ears. If they are so weak in their hearing as not to be able to hear through a covering, I pity them. Let them know that the whole head constitutes "the woman." Its limits and boundaries reach as far as the place where the robe begins. The region of the veil is co-extensive with the space covered by the hair when unbound; in order that the necks too may be encircled. For it is they which must be subjected, for the sake of which "power" ought to be "had on the head:" the veil is their yoke. "Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.4 pg.37"
Arabia's heathen females will be your judges, who cover not only the head, but the face also, so entirely, that they are content, with one eye free, to enjoy rather half the light than to prostitute the entire face. A female would rather see than be seen. And for this reason a certain Roman queen said that they were most unhappy, in that they could more easily fall in love than be fallen in love with; whereas they are rather happy, in their immunity from that second (and indeed more frequent) infelicity, that females are more apt to be fallen in love with than to fall in love. "Tertullian (A.D. 198) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.4 pg.37"